XP Driver help (Inspiron 1720) SOLVED - nVidia 8600gt and Sigmatel for windows XP

[Flyinace2000]

Well after our Dell Rep's "o sure the Inspiron 1720 will run xp" we bought it. It only shipped with Vista, so we ordered the cheapest version. So i we setting it up for the user today and finding drivers is proving to be a real PITA. I really need the nVidia drivers to work. It has the nVidia go 8600 card. Its a DX10 card which i think is the problem. The 8 series driver on nvidia's site won't install. We can't/don't want to deploy this one laptop with Vista when everything else is windows.

Any help is welcome. Thanks

[tsuperwanker]

What does it say when you try to download drivers off Nvidia? Have you tried this (http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_162.18.html)? Also try LaptopVideo2Go's site (http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/)

[Flyinace2000]

What does it say when you try to download drivers off Nvidia? Have you tried this (http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_162.18.html)? Also try LaptopVideo2Go's site (http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/)
The nvidia drivers say no compatible hard ware found. I am trying somehting a bit strange right now.

I am downloading apple bootcamp for MacBook Pro which also has a 8600 card. Going to eextract only that driver and see if that works.

I did try the forceware drivers with no luck

[Mavtech]

Yeah, I hate when Dell does this. They need to release the drivers for all OSes.

[Flyinace2000]

Yeah, I hate when Dell does this. They need to release the drivers for all OSes.
So far the BootCamp idea is not panning out....... hold on

[Flyinace2000]

GOT IT

Download the nvidia drivers from bootcamp (might work from nvidia as well). Used winrar to un-pack. to a folder. then form device manager add the hardware manualluy. Find the *.inf in the folder you jsut extracted and BAM it works.

[ObsidianPC]

I just received my laptop two days ago, and I am having the same problems. Right now I'm still trying to get XP to install all the way - there are no SATA drivers on the XP install cd, which I hadn't factored on.

I managed to slipstream the SATA drivers into the XP install, so it can see the HD now, and goes all the way past setting up the networking. Then at the screen where it is finalizing the install it just hangs up in the "Saving your settings" portion. I can still move the mouse cursor around, and move the window...it just will not proceed past about 15% (eyeballed from the progress bar)

I am wondering if it is having more driver issues at that point.

You don't happen to have a URL or site that has the video drivers, do you? If you have any tips for getting XP to actually finish installing, I would appreciate them very much!

[thumperj]

Flyinace2000 -

Can you throw us a bone? I'm about to do the same thing (put XP onto a 1720 that shipped with Vista.) I fear I'm opening up a can of worms I'll never close again.

So, the two issues seem to be the SATA driver and the display driver. Anything else? Any links we could use to get WinXP drivers for these?

Thanks for any help.....

[Flyinace2000]

I still have not been able to get the audio card to work. I got the video workign thouh.

[ObsidianPC]

Ok, so faaarrr....

Got my Dell Inspiron 1720 with Vista Home, and immediately nuked Vista and all the pre-existing partitions. XP install failed miserably due to no SATA drivers....right now I'm mostly up and running - this is what I did for most things - I know some people already know how to do this on this forum, but I certainly didn't and it was a pretty gruesome weekend figuring it out:

1. Get nLite - it lets you copy your XP cd to a local drive, and slipstream drivers into it, then make a new ISO and burn it. http://www.nliteos.com/
At the very minimum you'll need to put the SATA HD drivers in there. I got them from Dell, at http://support.dell.com and looked up the Inspiron 1720 Notebook - make sure you set the OS to XP.

2. Video Drivers. Very easy - go to http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/ and grab their latest pack. It supports the 8600M Nvidia chips, although it is not signed.

3. Other drivers - either root around Dell's site, or check out the http://driverpacks.net/ driver packs. They have *most* of the generic drivers, such as LAN or wireless Lan. I don't know anyone specific configuration, but if you can find out what company manufactured that component or chip (I found out a lot by checking my invoice, checking Dell.com, and looking up what drivers were available for Vista for my laptop.) you can just check for those drivers. The driver packs are organized alphabetically after you extract them, so you should have a max of 5 or so drivers to check.

4. Sound drivers. These are still kicking my ass, actually. I have figured out that I have a Sigmatel 9205 Chip, and I have downloaded a bunch of different drivers, made sure I had the right BIOS, installed the Intel Hugh Def Audio bus stuff, and while the device is always detected, it still has an exclamation point above it, and I get a "Device Not Present" error when I try to start the driver up. Hopefully someone on here will figure it out and give us the 411!

[Flyinace2000]

Ok, so faaarrr....

Got my Dell Inspiron 1720 with Vista Home, and immediately nuked Vista and all the pre-existing partitions. XP install failed miserably due to no SATA drivers....right now I'm mostly up and running - this is what I did for most things - I know some people already know how to do this on this forum, but I certainly didn't and it was a pretty gruesome weekend figuring it out:

1. Get nLite - it lets you copy your XP cd to a local drive, and slipstream drivers into it, then make a new ISO and burn it. http://www.nliteos.com/
At the very minimum you'll need to put the SATA HD drivers in there. I got them from Dell, at http://support.dell.com and looked up the Inspiron 1720 Notebook - make sure you set the OS to XP.

2. Video Drivers. Very easy - go to http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/ and grab their latest pack. It supports the 8600M Nvidia chips, although it is not signed.

3. Other drivers - either root around Dell's site, or check out the http://driverpacks.net/ driver packs. They have *most* of the generic drivers, such as LAN or wireless Lan. I don't know anyone specific configuration, but if you can find out what company manufactured that component or chip (I found out a lot by checking my invoice, checking Dell.com, and looking up what drivers were available for Vista for my laptop.) you can just check for those drivers. The driver packs are organized alphabetically after you extract them, so you should have a max of 5 or so drivers to check.

4. Sound drivers. These are still kicking my ass, actually. I have figured out that I have a Sigmatel 9205 Chip, and I have downloaded a bunch of different drivers, made sure I had the right BIOS, installed the Intel Hugh Def Audio bus stuff, and while the device is always detected, it still has an exclamation point above it, and I get a "Device Not Present" error when I try to start the driver up. Hopefully someone on here will figure it out and give us the 411!
i have the same problem with the sound. No device present kicking me butt.

[ObsidianPC]

Hopefully my new buddy Sumit can help me....

[Flyinace2000]

Hopefully my new buddy Sumit can help me....
HAHHAHAHAH good luck. I tried that and they were useless.

[beatbreaker82]

hey guys i've recently (tonight) got me Dell Inspriton 7200 - i'll do all the n-lite stuff (do i just have to get the SATA drivers from the Dell site? http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen&ServiceTag=&SystemID=INS_PNT_PM_1720&os=WLH&osl=en&catid=&impid=)

anyway i was wondering if you've heard about anyone able to get the sound card to work yet? I'm a little reserved with deleting the partition "recovery" that dell/Vista has already set up

I've also read about in different places and haven't seen anyone yet that's managed to get the sound drivers working - pretty discouraging. Anyway i'm subscribing to this thread, plesae post up the solution if you get it licked.

[Flyinace2000]

hey guys i've recently (tonight) got me Dell Inspriton 7200 - i'll do all the n-lite stuff (do i just have to get the SATA drivers from the Dell site? http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen&ServiceTag=&SystemID=INS_PNT_PM_1720&os=WLH&osl=en&catid=&impid=)

anyway i was wondering if you've heard about anyone able to get the sound card to work yet? I'm a little reserved with deleting the partition "recovery" that dell/Vista has already set up

I've also read about in different places and haven't seen anyone yet that's managed to get the sound drivers working - pretty discouraging. Anyway i'm subscribing to this thread, plesae post up the solution if you get it licked.
No luck on my end.

[beatbreaker82]

No luck on my end.

damn it - i knew i should have gone for the better sound card, that one probably has XP drivers.

Well there's no point trying to do it if i can't have sound - i guess the options are to buy one of their sound cards and install it myself - voiding the warranty or using Vista

"A program needs your permission to continue" STFU!!

I've also used Beryl and Compiz fusion before - they kick the living S*** out of areo

[beatbreaker82]

damn it - i knew i should have gone for the better sound card, that one probably has XP drivers.

Well there's no point trying to do it if i can't have sound - i guess the options are to buy one of their sound cards and install it myself - voiding the warranty or using Vista

"A program needs your permission to continue" STFU!!

I've also used Beryl and Compiz fusion before - they kick the living S*** out of areo

Hold on i just thought of something after i found this out - When you get the upgrade for Audiology it's only a software upgrade - not hardware upgrade.

this wouldn't mean that it's possible to use Audiology drivers would it? Does it more of less mean that if you buy the software upgrade you've getting that alone - just the software on top and not really a different driver for the Sigmatel?

could someone give this a go? I'm heading overseas in a couple of days and would love if it XP would work flawlessly instead of crappy Vista - i checked the performance in the task manager lastnight - just after boot up and the 7200 was on idle - it was using 700mb of ram just sitting there - WTF!!

[Flyinace2000]

Hold on i just thought of something after i found this out - When you get the upgrade for Audiology it's only a software upgrade - not hardware upgrade.

this wouldn't mean that it's possible to use Audiology drivers would it? Does it more of less mean that if you buy the software upgrade you've getting that alone - just the software on top and not really a different driver for the Sigmatel?

could someone give this a go? I'm heading overseas in a couple of days and would love if it XP would work flawlessly instead of crappy Vista - i checked the performance in the task manager lastnight - just after boot up and the 7200 was on idle - it was using 700mb of ram just sitting there - WTF!!
I will give it a shot tomorrow but i don't think it would work. Why do you think that the creative and sigmatel sound options are the same hardware. I would be kinda ticked off if i paid for a creative card and got sigmatel.

Doesn't me i won't try it tomorrow.

Thanks

-Will

[beatbreaker82]

I will give it a shot tomorrow but i don't think it would work. Why do you think that the creative and sigmatel sound options are the same hardware. I would be kinda ticked off if i paid for a creative card and got sigmatel.

Doesn't me i won't try it tomorrow.

Thanks

-Will

check it: http://www.notebookforums.com/thread167234.html

It does not upgrade the device...it just adds some software to the device you have. I have seen and heard both and it may be worth $25...but only because $25 is nothing.


if it's just a simple driver download for audiology it might really be do-able

http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/download.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&releaseid=R127097&SystemID=INS_PNT_P4_9400&os=WW1&osl=en&deviceid=9326&devlib=0&typecnt=1&vercnt=1&formatcnt=1&libid=3&fileid=169315

let me know how it goes.

you might also find this useful (even though it doesn't seem to be for your model) http://www.slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=575558&page=2

is there another discussion thread opened concerning the audio drivers? This one has been marked as solved now and might not be getting as much attention any more because of that.

[EinriqueSantos]

hello!

first of all thanks to all the of you who helped me installing win xp on my new inspiron 1720..

finally i found a post in a german forum concerning the xp audio drivers for an inspiron 1520 which works for the 1720 as well (since it's all about the sigmatel chip)

http://support.euro.dell.com/support/downloads/download.aspx?c=de&cs=dedhs1&l=de&s=dhs&releaseid=R153908&formatcnt=1&libid=0&fileid=205136

i have installed this driver and everything works fine.

greets

[Flyinace2000]

hello!

first of all thanks to all the of you who helped me installing win xp on my new inspiron 1720..

finally i found a post in a german forum concerning the xp audio drivers for an inspiron 1520 which works for the 1720 as well (since it's all about the sigmatel chip)

http://support.euro.dell.com/support/downloads/download.aspx?c=de&cs=dedhs1&l=de&s=dhs&releaseid=R153908&formatcnt=1&libid=0&fileid=205136

i have installed this driver and everything works fine.

greets


IT FREAKING WORKED!!!!!!!!!


THANK YOU
THANK YOU
THANK YOU
THANK YOU
THANK YOU

[ObsidianPC]

The word from Dell is that they will have XP drivers on their support page in "a few days".... so hopefully that will pan out.


In the mean time, I'm downloading those German drivers to give them a try.

OMG they totally worked!

I owe you a beer!

[beatbreaker82]

The word from Dell is that they will have XP drivers on their support page in "a few days".... so hopefully that will pan out.


In the mean time, I'm downloading those German drivers to give them a try.

OMG they totally worked!

I owe you a beer!

I can't get that German driver to work i keep getting the following error message: http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/5456/audioissuesek9.jpg

I've downloaded it from the same place as everyone else http://support.euro.dell.com/support/downloads/download.aspx?c=de&cs=dedhs1&l=de&s=dhs&releaseid=R153908&formatcnt=1&libid=0&fileid=205136

what am i doing wrong here? I thought i got everything from the right place

i also got my vid card to work no problems though every time i boot it gives me the following error message

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/3079/nverroruh2.jpg

[Flyinace2000]

I can't get that German driver to work i keep getting the following error message: http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/5456/audioissuesek9.jpg

I've downloaded it from the same place as everyone else http://support.euro.dell.com/support/downloads/download.aspx?c=de&cs=dedhs1&l=de&s=dhs&releaseid=R153908&formatcnt=1&libid=0&fileid=205136

what am i doing wrong here? I thought i got everything from the right place

i also got my vid card to work no problems though every time i boot it gives me the following error message

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/3079/nverroruh2.jpg
Go to you Devise manager and make sure that all prevoius drivers are unistalled. Reboot and try again.

[beatbreaker82]

I don't know why i can't uninstall them but the only ones i can see are the Audio legacy devices and i can't uninstall them or make them inactive. Have i missed something else?

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/3742/devices1xr6.jpg

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/5849/devices2jo2.jpg


AH GOT IT!!!

just before i took that screen shot i decided to delete a device called "unknown PCI device" - it initiated an install for "Microsoft UAA bus driver for high definition audio" - which then allowed me to point it to the WDM folder when it looked for the audio device

it then looked for drivers for the modem but i couldn't find anything for that. -ah who cares? who uses modem any more, as nice as it would be to have no outstanding issues with this i'm really starting to not give a crap so long as it works.

many thanks for all your helps!!!!

[cristianblues]

Hello,
i have de same problem with audio. I have Sigmatel 9205 and itry to installed a lot of differents drivers but the system it not recognizes this device.

Please, i need help

THANKS

[omahacory]

I have got everything reinstalled on the 1720 except the video drivers. I did not purchase the nvidia card so those drivers do not work. I tried the generic Intel 965 drivers and they do not work correctly. I am also having a difficult time getting the Base System Devices to load. I have attached a screenshot of the device manager window.

Thanks for your help.

[justinj]

thanks for the read everyone....just got my 1720 yesterday and hated vista immediately....after alot of tinkerin and readin I finally got everything in XP to work....no !'s in device manager...I just used nLite to slipstream all of the xp drivers I could find into a new xp install....worked like a charm.

one last thing though....has anyone changed the setting in bios back to the other option other than ATA for the HDD after installing XP? (the setting name eludes me at the moment) is there any gain here?


omahacory.....I have the same video card as you, and I had to google "intel x3100 xp driver" second site is this one: http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-67978.html

as for the base devices, those are probably chipset devices....download the chipset drivers from dell (make sure you change the os to XP) and then install the drivers through device manager.....should be all set.

[justinj]

see above

[justinj]

see above

[rulemasters]

I am trying to install Windows 2003 server (32-bit) on my 1700. I was able to use 32-bit XP drivers including the Audio driver suggested on this forum. The only exception is the graphics driver. The default VGA driver redraw the window at a snails pace. The driver from LaptopVideo2Go doesn't work. Since I am using this as my main development machine, it kind of kills productivity. Any suggestions?

Thanks

[Mavtech]

I am trying to install Windows 2003 server (32-bit) on my 1700. I was able to use 32-bit XP drivers including the Audio driver suggested on this forum. The only exception is the graphics driver. The default VGA driver redraw the window at a snails pace. The driver from LaptopVideo2Go doesn't work. Since I am using this as my main development machine, it kind of kills productivity. Any suggestions?

Thanks

Why in the world would you install Server 2003 on a laptop? Good luck with that one.

[rulemasters]

I do BizTalk development for a living and Windows 2003 is the target platform so I keep my dev environment the same. I had no issue installing Windows 2003 on my Inspiron 9300 but installing on the Voestro 1700 has been a real pain.

[CSVN]

No luck on my end.

No Luck on my end too.
Dell Supports on this is useless and time waste including customers' fustrations.
I just got grandnew Dell Inspiron 1720 laptop and finally with you guys helping out there, I got almost hardwares working under windows 2003, except for Audio Sigmatec 9250
See Pix:
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m35/vn119/DELLInspiron1720nvidia8400GSfixed.png

[CSVN]

I am trying to install Windows 2003 server (32-bit) on my 1700. I was able to use 32-bit XP drivers including the Audio driver suggested on this forum. The only exception is the graphics driver. The default VGA driver redraw the window at a snails pace. The driver from LaptopVideo2Go doesn't work. Since I am using this as my main development machine, it kind of kills productivity. Any suggestions?

Thanks
Peoples out there can get 1720 to work with such unofficial nvidia drivers for this windows 2003 and for those cards customized by DELL for its systems. Did you try installing the driver manually rather than running setup.exe ?

[lennydude]

Awesome thread :):)

What about the wireless card drivers? I can not get the wireless card to work which makes my dual boot to XP useless :(

[CSVN]

Awesome thread :):)

What about the wireless card drivers? I can not get the wireless card to work which makes my dual boot to XP useless :(

Note that, it is useless to talk with Dell staff on the driver problem, particularly with discrete video cards.
For my xp with dell inspiron 1720 laptop I had for some days, to get most drivers to work for this laptop hardwares

Intel T7500,
Discrete video card : nvidia geforce 8400GS customized by Dell for its mobile laptops;
intel chipset 965GM;
4-in-1 memory card reader - Ricoh Memory stick controller + Ricoh MMC memory stick controller + ricoh xD-picture card controller;
Express card slot;
Intel 82801 ICH8M HEM/HBM SATA AHCI Controller + Intel ICH8M Ultra ATA Storage Controller - 2850;
Dell Wireless 1390 card, b/g;
Modem conexant v92, HDA D330 MDC;
1394 Ricoh OHCI compliant controller;
TSSTCorp DVDRom;
Ethernet network interface, broadcom 440x 10/100mbit.
Dell wireless 400 wireless usb mini-card;
Dell wireless 355 BlueTooth 2.0 Enhance Data Rate (EDR)
Audio Sigmatec High Definition 9205


I have done in this order of installations progress (this case, not yet done slipstream to windows 2003 installation source the intel matrix storage driver to handle AHCI sata interface):

Download all available drivers for this laptop model from Dell website, for winxp & vista x32; and download unofficial nvidia geforce 8400GS video driver from video2laptop.com (?); all are available on one of your partition hard disk of the laptop, or burned on a cd/dvd in-hand.
A fresh default install of windows 2003 Enterprise server OS;
Unzip all downloaded drivers to corresponding temporary folder on the partition hd.
Manually driver update for the first entry of "IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers" in Device Mgr : to get Intel Sata Matrix Storage driver to work with sata native mode AHCI;
Manually driver update for the "Intel ATA storage controllers" with Dell Intel Mobile chipset driver (unzip the downloaded file into a temp folder).
Do the same procedure above to manually update videodriver for the video controller (vga compatible entry);
Run setup.exe from the unzip file folder of the modem driver (dell file) to install driver for modem.
Do the same for memory card controller driver install, Nic Ethernet Broadcom 440x 10/100 network controller, Dell 1390 b/g wireless card driver,


Now mine is running under windows 2003, almost hardwares are working properly, but "audio sigmatec hd 9205" + BlueTooth Enhance 2.0+ "BCM2045 controller" and one PCI device ?

UPDATE: I just download the winxp driver for the "Dell Wireless BT2.0 EDR" from the link below, now, the Dell 355 BT2.0EDR on inspiron 1720 working under windows 2003 server. Note that the following link is not specific to Dell-Inspiron-1720 laptops:

http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/download.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen&releaseid=R127314&formatcnt=1&libid=0&fileid=169465

Any help and commnents.

ps: DELL is forcing users to stick with ms windows vista as the only one OS buyers can go with Inspiron 1720 at least.

[CSVN]

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m35/vn119/DELLInspiron1720DellBT2EDRfixed.png

[CSVN]

Why in the world would you install Server 2003 on a laptop? Good luck with that one.

So far, Windows 2003 server is the best of MS. Oh, Bloatware Vista OS

[Deimos]

Simple solution for video drivers:

Download nVidia drivers (latest version)
Attempt install (this will extrat to the C: drive under the folder "nvidia")
After the install fails, close it and go to the device manager
Right click the standard VGA controller and select update drivers.
Choose "No, not this time"
Choose "Install from a list or specific location (Advanced)
Choose "Don't search, I will choose the driver to install."
If it asks for a device type, choose display controller
Click "Have disk"
navigate to the nvidia folder on C:\, navigate to the folder that contains the driver inf
Select the closest video card in the list (8600 GS or similar)
When it says "windows cannot verify that this is the correct driver" click install anyway.

This worked for me, good luck.

[bm116]

First thanks to all that have added to this post so far - it has helped immensely. I have XP on my 1720 and I think I'm close, but I have the yellow exclaimation in device manager for 'usb root hub' (seven of them). The IC8h host controller entries are there and working properly. What could be the issue with the root hub?

[pestiferous]

AH GOT IT!!!

just before i took that screen shot i decided to delete a device called "unknown PCI device" - it initiated an install for "Microsoft UAA bus driver for high definition audio" - which then allowed me to point it to the WDM folder when it looked for the audio device

it then looked for drivers for the modem but i couldn't find anything for that. -ah who cares? who uses modem any more, as nice as it would be to have no outstanding issues with this i'm really starting to not give a crap so long as it works.

many thanks for all your helps!!!!


Many thanks guys!!! -- just wanted to add that once I got the audio working, I was able to install the modem with Inspiron 1520 drivers (http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?os=WW1&osl=EN&catid=-1&impid=-1&servicetag=&SystemID=INS_PNT_PM_1520&hidos=WLH&hidlang=en) which didn't work before that.... also one could you the video driver from that link for geforce 8400m and 8600m

[CSVN]

Many thanks guys!!! -- just wanted to add that once I got the audio working, I was able to install the modem with Inspiron 1520 drivers (http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?os=WW1&osl=EN&catid=-1&impid=-1&servicetag=&SystemID=INS_PNT_PM_1520&hidos=WLH&hidlang=en) which didn't work before that.... also one could you the video driver from that link for geforce 8400m and 8600m

Can you give the link to download the working audio driver for dell sigmatec stac 9205 chipset ? thx